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Post by davemc on Jul 20, 2015 11:55:36 GMT
I am going to create a number of routemaps using Strava. I will share the links here so you can download the *.tcx or *.gpx whatever your preference. Here is the first section mapped up to 180km....www.strava.com/routes/2757119DaveUpdate: I have looked at this a few different ways and realised I was overthinking it. It will be impossible to map in terms of time so I am mapping in terms of distance, 250km (approximately) per map. I will provide a document with a key so you know which maps to download to your Garmin. I am trying to map to the nearest largish town so we can have reasonable targets in terms of access to shops and B&B etc. It may be that during one eight hour shift one team only makes 200km (25kph pace) but we should be in contact to know this and then the second team can drive to make the changeover. Hopefully for the most part this will not be more than 20-30km out but when we have all the maps to look at we can make those assessments based on terrain. Here are the first two sections: Map 1 - Start to Ballycastle (250km): 3pm to 11pm Sunday, August 30th - NOTE, lights and follow car required from 7pm. TS01 Ballymascanlan, Co. Louth; TS02 Moira, Co. Down; TS03 Loughguile, Co. Antrim. Map 2 - Ballycastle to Castlederg (256km): 11pm - 7am Monday, August 31st - NOTE, lights and follow car required for entire shift. TS04 Coleraine, Co. Derry; TS05 Malin Head, Co. Donegal; TS06 Lifford, Co. Donegal. Map 3 - Castlederg to Toormakeady (250km): 7am - 3pm Monday August 31st - NOTE, Follow car not specifically required except for mechanical assistance. TS07 Sligo Town, Co. Sligo; TS08 Castlebar, Co. Sligo More to follow...... |
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Routemaps
Jul 20, 2015 12:26:46 GMT
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Post by ciaran on Jul 20, 2015 12:26:46 GMT
Hi All,
Just a quick heads up, I read on he RAI FB page that they were surveying a new section of the route. Sounds like it's somewhere in the North West.
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Post by Admin_Rodney on Jul 20, 2015 19:51:52 GMT
Good man Dave.
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Post by Mervyn on Jul 21, 2015 11:07:03 GMT
Have been looking at getting prints to help our navigation ie maps with some details and turns marked perhaps 4 to 5 pages per stage. Also looking at mapping software like strava that dave is looking at, the one i am looking at is ride with gps and the whole route loads into it as
downloaded from the site. This needs to be broken down to stages which probably is not to hard, the big problem is finding sat navs that can take the files and run them on the road and be reliable. I contacted a sat nav hire company from the internet but they aren't very inspiring no return emails and only a voice mail on the phone. Will keep posting if I get any progress
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Post by Daragh (offsite) on Jul 21, 2015 15:53:51 GMT
Thanks Mervyn.
When you guys did RAAM did you use GPS/Sat Nav a lot?
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Post by mervyn on Jul 21, 2015 16:37:02 GMT
No; we tried to but we ran into the same problem of transfering the route file to a the sat nav, hopefully the tech has moved on since then and we can get something going (anyone got a sat nav?)
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Routemaps
Jul 21, 2015 18:48:53 GMT
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Post by ciaran on Jul 21, 2015 18:48:53 GMT
I have a sat nav app called Navigon (owned by Garmin). I have been looking into the ability to upload files to it but no look so far. If it's possible then we could load the app onto multiple iPads/iPhones.
Heading on holidays at the moment so will have plenty of time over the next couple of days to investigate further.
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Post by mervyn on Jul 24, 2015 19:49:57 GMT
Have created graphic route maps for the first five stages (as far as Mallen head).With these I am feeling a bit more confident that we will be able to navigate without having to relay on a GPX route on a sat nav. That said it would still be great to have a sat nav as reassurance. Will keep on map making and send a sample of one to the pages here tomorrow.
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Post by mervyn on Jul 25, 2015 11:25:27 GMT
![]()  Hi can now send a sample of a graphics map of part of stage 4 ending in Colraine, seem to be ending up with 3 to 4 pages per stage. |
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Post by davemc on Jul 25, 2015 17:30:45 GMT
Hi Mervyn, the Garmin I use, the Edge 510 can accept .tcx or .gpx files - the on board memory is 20MB which is too small for the whole route as its just over 20MB. So mapping the sections as I did in the OP helps us load the relevant maps for our "shifts". The device shows a "breadcrumb" trail we can follow on the bikes - if we need a map then perhaps we can find a kind soul who can lend us a Garmin Edge 810 or 1000 as these have basemaps loaded on them and can accept the files we need. We should do a quick headcount to see who has these devices and see if we can get a loan of more.
Something we will need to resolve is who are the members of the sub-teams and which sub-team goes off first so then we know what maps are relevant for each sub-team. There is a detailed route book we are supposed to get from RAI, they have not sent is yet but told us to rely on the 2014 one. What else were you thinking we need?
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Post by mervyn on Jul 25, 2015 20:00:28 GMT
We will probably need 3 route books one for the leap car one for the follow car and one for the camper van. A Profiles for each stage would be usefull to let the riders know what to expect next and for planning change overs. In relation to the garmin edge it would be useful to be able load and unload the stages from the camper to keep plans flexable we might need a laptop for this. We had a problem with stage ends and knowing exactly where they are, to reset the clock in the car for the next stage. I am getting grabs from google maps to help with this.
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Post by mervyn on Jul 25, 2015 20:10:43 GMT
Hi dave
Do you have the route split up into stages as GPX files. I am trying to do it but it is taking ages if you have any already done you could send me it would be great.
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Post by davemc on Jul 25, 2015 20:39:39 GMT
I have the one in the Original Post above but I would like to split the route into meaningful segments, i.e., depending on whether each group is going to be doing 4, 6, or 8 hour shifts which will significantly change the distance for each segment. I am going to go with 4 hour shifts and consider that if it goes to 8 hours then it is just a multiple of 2. I will be doing this this week so I will have most of it done by the end of the week for you and I will post in this thread as I make progress.
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Post by mervyn on Jul 26, 2015 14:44:55 GMT
Hi Dave
It may be better to stick with the stages as the splits otherwise things could get very confused. Personally I think the best way is that each group (4 riders) dose two stages at a time which should be about 6 to 8 hours on the road but that is open to debate, it may be better to then decide on the road when each rider changes over. Don't forget that the stages and particularly the stage ends dictate the navigation distances in the route book and is also where we have to check in with race HQ to give our race progress and time. Let us know what you think.
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Post by davemc on Aug 6, 2015 14:32:00 GMT
Some maps posted in the Original Post - can be downloaded for Garmin use. I have created them as ca. 250km splits as doing anything else will cause too much confusion. I have tried to relate them to 8 hour shifts but that will be movable based on pace so it is a rough guide. I also have them starting and ending in a town/village which may be considered the stopping points for the team off the road.
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